Comments on: I Was Wrong About India http://www.satisfice.com/blog/archives/6 The Consulting Software Tester Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:53:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Srinivas Yeluripaty http://www.satisfice.com/blog/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-196847 Srinivas Yeluripaty Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:08:58 +0000 http://12.165.213.55/blog/?p=6#comment-196847 Hi James, I follow your articles and they provide great learning to me. My view point on this blog is, 1. You should consider the average experience level of people that attended your sessions. In true sense, when you say a tester in India, you would find someone with 0.1- 3 years of experience. This could be due to volumes or maturity of the industry. So at that level they wouldn't have experienced many situations to argue on what you present or question. People with more than 5 years in the industry, generally manage projects and completely out of sync on what happens in the gross root level like test design, process implementation to present their view point on many things. <em>[James' Reply: Good point. I don't know the levels. But if they were exclusively inexperienced testers, that would tell me something interesting about the culture, right there. In the United States, it's typical of experienced people to come to my classes.] </em> 2. What was the agenda set to the people who attended your sessions? <em>[James' Reply: You can see my class materials on my website.] </em> 3. The two companies you visited might not represent the entire Testing IT industry As the average experience level of people in the industry goes up, the maturity level also might go up and then you may find some improvement. On top of this, speaking up, assertiveness skills are some of the important training many young engineers should undergo. <em>[James' Reply: My experience with Indian testers since I taught in India seems to confirm my earlier impressions. I think there's a lot of potential there. Huge potential. But mostly it is not being realized. I have met some extremely ambitious Indian testers, however.]</em> Hi James,

I follow your articles and they provide great learning to me.

My view point on this blog is,

1. You should consider the average experience level of people that attended your sessions.

In true sense, when you say a tester in India, you would find someone with 0.1- 3 years of experience. This could be due to volumes or maturity of the industry. So at that level they wouldn’t have experienced many situations to argue on what you present or question. People with more than 5 years in the industry, generally manage projects and completely out of sync on what happens in the gross root level like test design, process implementation to present their view point on many things.

[James' Reply: Good point. I don't know the levels. But if they were exclusively inexperienced testers, that would tell me something interesting about the culture, right there. In the United States, it's typical of experienced people to come to my classes.]

2. What was the agenda set to the people who attended your sessions?

[James' Reply: You can see my class materials on my website.]

3. The two companies you visited might not represent the entire Testing IT industry

As the average experience level of people in the industry goes up, the maturity level also might go up and then you may find some improvement. On top of this, speaking up, assertiveness skills are some of the important training many young engineers should undergo.

[James' Reply: My experience with Indian testers since I taught in India seems to confirm my earlier impressions. I think there's a lot of potential there. Huge potential. But mostly it is not being realized. I have met some extremely ambitious Indian testers, however.]

]]> By: Anand SK http://www.satisfice.com/blog/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-47433 Anand SK Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:58:36 +0000 http://12.165.213.55/blog/?p=6#comment-47433 I think, to start with, your assumption was wrong - that Indians in the Software industry will have inhibitions because of cultural differences, etc. Many Indians in the software industry are at par with the rest of the world - not just technically, but also in the way they think, react and work - because they are afterall most of the times working for customers that are living on the other side of the world. <em>[James' Reply: Good point. It's true I didn't consider that.]</em> I think, to start with, your assumption was wrong - that Indians in the Software industry will have inhibitions because of cultural differences, etc. Many Indians in the software industry are at par with the rest of the world - not just technically, but also in the way they think, react and work - because they are afterall most of the times working for customers that are living on the other side of the world.

[James' Reply: Good point. It's true I didn't consider that.]

]]> By: Subroto Bagchi http://www.satisfice.com/blog/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-7 Subroto Bagchi Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:17:08 +0000 http://12.165.213.55/blog/?p=6#comment-7 How did you learn about MindTree and chose to go there? Subroto How did you learn about MindTree and chose to go there?

Subroto

]]> By: Kalyana Rao Konda http://www.satisfice.com/blog/archives/6/comment-page-1#comment-6 Kalyana Rao Konda Tue, 25 Nov 2003 00:07:35 +0000 http://12.165.213.55/blog/?p=6#comment-6 Hello James Bach What India really lacks at this point in time is a Testing Icon.There are organaizations in India employing hundreds of Engineers in testing. What we lack is enough material and forums to take the Testing Community to its next level of maturity. The wisdom and novel thoughts from guys like you sharing them would help a lot. Testers are testers anywhere in the world. Cultures might be different but problems are the same. Regards Passionate test engineer Hello James Bach

What India really lacks at this point in time is a Testing Icon.There are organaizations in India employing hundreds of Engineers in testing. What we lack is enough material and forums to take the Testing Community to its next level of maturity.

The wisdom and novel thoughts from guys like you sharing them would help a lot.

Testers are testers anywhere in the world. Cultures might be different but problems are the same.

Regards
Passionate test engineer

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